I recently submitted my website and it’s work to a fellow photographer that I admire greatly not only for his work but his contributions to other photographers of all levels; hobbyist and amateurs to professionals alike – Zack Arias.
I feel very fortunate to have been chosen to be critiqued by someone I admire so much. Having anyone you look up to actually look at your work is one of those ‘heady’ type of things. I was ready for anything he might say – like, “Your work is complete and total CRAP!” to “I love it!” – though honestly I didn’t expect the last one. I mean, the whole point of a critique is to have an honest opinion. I did kinda know ahead of time that he might be critiquing my site, so I did kinda flood it with some additional images – fully expecting him to call me out on the additional fluff, but wanting him to see it at the same time. He’s a very busy man and I wanted to take full advantage of the time spent on my site, and that meant posting stuff to get an opinion on it. Something other than the typical, “that’s nice” I mean.
I know I’ve grown a lot in the last year in abilities, (and gear), but I know I have so much to learn still! It’s actually daunting to step back and look at that aspect of things. To know that you’ve come such a long way already, but to see you have SO much farther to go! I’m not discouraged by this, mind you. Just aware.
It’s after doing this that I decided it was time to do something else to force myself to take that next step. I had felt like I hit a bit of a plateau and I was searching for something to push me forward. Something that wouldn’t cost me money especially… as I don’t have much to invest at the moment. If I had funds to invest I would be traveling to Atlanta to take a class from Zack, actually; which is still something I plan on doing at some point in the near future!
So, what do I do? I submit my website to Zack for a critique. This made me nervous, but I wanted to know what a photographer of his caliber thought of my site and my work. Now, I know that most understand what critiques are… but have you ever looked at Dictionary.com to see what they have to say on the subject?
I would like to point out the one thing that caught my eye in that – “But this use of critique is still regarded by many as pretentious jargon…” This is interesting to me since I’ve been receiving comments from those of you who have watched Zack’s critique of my site and work back on November 4th [’09] basically stating that his critique seemed to be just that. I would also like to point out that I do NOT feel this way about his critique. I do not regard what he had to say about my site and the work I’ve been creating as “pretentious” anything. I understand fully what he was saying with each point he made.
However, I recently received a message from a client that articulated quite well what many others have been saying to me since they too have viewed his critique. In this message Karen explained her viewpoint on a few of the points Zack made. First of which was about my old logo/watermark.
One of the very first things that Zack (and his wife, Meg) had to say about it was basically, “what is it?” Well, it’s an abstract drawing I made several years ago of a Mousebird; an african species of small bird that I used to work with. I actually have a VERY similar rendering as a tattoo on my right forearm and often get this same basic question. So, when Zack and Meg asked what it was I was not surprised. The species of bird it is based on is not common or even well known unless you live in the same area they do – where they are actually regarded as pests because of their habit of raiding people’s houses for food; not unlike mice which people are much more familiar with here in the states.
So I understood where they were coming from on that one. I almost expected it. As far as how it relates to my photography – well… it doesn’t really. Not anymore. See, when I first started taking photos I was still an animal trainer for a local park – working mainly with a variety of avian species, aka birds. So, nearly all my photos were of birds. I’ve been published for my work on that subject – I actually recently gave permission for one of those photos to be used in an upcoming publication that will be released only to libraries. Kinda cool. But I haven’t considered myself a nature photographer for quite some time. I do however still photograph animals on occasion, but since this is not the “target demographic” I am trying to reach, the logo just seems like some odd squiggle.
But that’s just the type of uniqueness that Karen and a few others have stated is part of my appeal. To quote Karen, “I did not know what it was originally either, but that made it all the more interesting. I think it was unique, just like you and your vision for your work.” It is a good thing to be different and memorable. Plus, Karen also stated that it is a “conversation starter” which is also a very valid point and should not be dismissed. I have never wanted to be just another photographer out there… creating the same stuff that everyone else is. I’ve been searching for what I can create that will be unique and still desirable for potential clients for some time now. I’m starting to find my way there at this point with all the themed shoots I’ve done and am currently planning.
Well, the question then is what do I do with all this knowledge. Do I redesign my “branding” and go with something more traditional or do I stick with the unique and unidentifiable logo? Hmmm. I’m not sure at this point what the answer to that is. I have pulled the old logo from the site and replaced it with something more traditional for the time being, but I have not definitively decided what I will or even should do there. I’m always grateful for any opinions you may have on this subject! To those who have already given me your opinions I would like to say Thanks! I am reading them all and thinking on all you have to say.
Another criticism Zack had on my site specifically was the fact that I had photos of things like kids and weddings in the same place where I have my themed work. Again, this was a point that I kinda expected. I mean, if you look through my portfolio and see all the portraits and kids and then go to my Character tab and look through photos of the Sweeney Todd shoot you might at least pause at the contrast. If you’re a parent and wanting me to photograph your kids, would photos like this:
startle you? Might it scare you away? Or does it show, as Karen articulated so well, that my work is, “…versatile, AND that you can bring your uniqueness and whimsical sense to ordinary subjects and situations!” … “not bound by an age group or other demographic. I think it crosses boundaries, and that is what I like to see.” Again, another valid point. I can see both sides again on this one. I have been thinking this over since the critique and decided at first to pull those photos, (kids, weddings and such), from the site but I plan on putting them back up at least for the time being. In order to display all my work, Zack recommends I make another site to post the kids, family and wedding photos on.
However, I have one problem with doing this at the moment. I am having business come in with these images displayed together. To me that means that potential clients are not deterred by the contrasting images. It doesn’t mean they aren’t startled by them, but perhaps it is like Karen and others are telling me. That the character stuff – regardless of how shocking it might be – does display a uniques that clients find appealing rather than repelling? Since the style in which I shoot remains consistent, I decided it was best to leave all the images up so as to give the best comprehensive view of my work.
Lastly, I would like to state that I am in total agreement with Zack on the lack of story with my themed shoots. What is the point of all these images, if not to tell a story? I have taken that to heart and am currently working on another themed shoot where I am implementing these changes. I am creating a storyboard of sorts with sketches in order to see the story on paper (not just in my head) before we even do one shot. I like how less nervous it makes me about the overall shoot. Normally, I just kick ideas around with Chris (my husband) ahead of time but never write anything down… so when the actual shoot arrives it’s more impromptu and chaotic. I’ve found that I come up with neat ideas in those types of situations… but taking the time to plan some things out is proving to be a lot less stressful for me. Which is always a plus! =)
Ultimately, I have pulled some of the shots from the site in response to Zack’s critique that I feel did not portray my abilities as a photographer to the highest standard with which I am capable. I have redesigned the logo – temporarily at least. And have also replaced the family, kid and wedding photos which need to be displayed – with the idea that I may make an additional site to display them in the near future.
Again, I would like to say a big THANKS to Zack for his critique and to all my fans who have taken their time to not only watch the critique, but also to write me with their opinions on what they saw. The combination of everyone’s opinions helps me to grow as a photographer and as a small business owner. I am so grateful to everyone for taking the time to not only look at my stuff but to let me know they did and what they thought! [*blushing*] It really means a lot to me! Thank you! =)
~Squeek!








Erin Collins
November 15, 2009 at 7:24 pm
I like it. You took what he said to heart, without taking it personal like I did. I understand that it was his critique, but even watching the other critiques he did, I just got this vibe that he thinks everything that everyone does looks just like every other photo he’s ever seen. I don’t know, there was just a hint of arrogance in his critique that I was put off by. I know he’s good, and he knows what he’s talking about, but come on! Anyway, love the changes, and keep up the AMAZING work!
Zack Arias
November 16, 2009 at 9:48 am
Bravo! Critique well taken point by point.
Remember… I’m only one voice in a sea of thousands. You have to gather several trusted voices together and then filter it down from there. Sounds like you are doing some good filtering!
Cheers,
Zack
squeekphoto
November 16, 2009 at 10:19 am
Thanks Zack! It’s kinda hard when I can see both sides…
Zack Arias
November 16, 2009 at 9:50 am
@Erin – Honestly, if I was an arrogant photographer, I wouldn’t take the time to do these critiques and be so quick to point out my own mistakes. Just sayin’.
Cheers,
Zack
Erin Collins
November 17, 2009 at 10:24 pm
I was wondering if I would get a response to that
Understood. I definitely agree with Kristen, that you do need to hear things that will help make you grow. And I would like to make a point that I don’t think that you (Zach) are arrogant because it is great that you take the time to help others. My apologizes for making it sound that way. I think that I’m just so impressed with the way Kristen has grown in the last few years, and I completely look to her for guidance – that I just think she can do no wrong!! haha.
Anyway, thank you Zach for all you do for us struggling to make it somewhere in this biz. Someday I will have the courage that Kristen did and submit my stuff for you to critique…….but not yet
Erin
Julia
November 16, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Hi Kristen!
I follow tweets mentioning @zarias, which is how I found your rebuttal. You took the non-sugar-coated criticism so well! My husband was put off with Zack’s style in the last critique (the only one he’s seen), but I do think that Zack is saying things photographers need to hear. And most of the time, even asking for critiques on flickr, etc, you’re still mainly only going to be told what’s complimentary. Which isn’t of any use to help one grow and improve!
Since you are getting work with both types of photography thrown in together, I’d say try it apart as an experiment and see what happens. I imagine you’ll still be getting work, either way, but that there’d be better potential staying more focused. I even see quite a few folks on etsy separate their handmade work that is similar but different enough to deserve a separate grouping with a different etsy store. You can always link to your other site in an “about the photographer” type of section.
I love the name of your photography business! I also was a bit confused by your logo, though. I think if you were still shooting animals, then your logo would be appropriate, but otherwise, I much prefer the loop-y type logo you have on this page. Yes, more generic, but not confusing at least.
Lastly, I’d like to say that it’s awesome seeing a female doing such a great job with lighting! On the strobist blog, his survey showed a following of about 4% female, so you are definitely one of the few!!
Julia
PS – Oh yeah, I couldn’t easily find a link back to your professional website from your blog. I only found it when I saw your old logo embedded in the content of this post.
squeekphoto
November 17, 2009 at 9:47 am
@Julia – Thanks so much for taking the time to read and reply to my blog! I’d just recently moved it to a “real” blogging site and am still working out a few things. I hadn’t realized that I didn’t have a link back to my main site!!! EEK! I’m going to fix that now! =)
4%? I knew I was a minority, but yeesh! That’s a VERY tiny percent. Wow.
And the ultimate plan will be to make a site for the family friendly stuff that clashes so much with the Character stuff I’ve been doing these days. I’m just waiting until I can afford to do it right. Buy the domain (not sure what I want there though yet) and also get a similar website to what I have – hosted and whatnot. I’ll probably link to it in several places on the current site. Definitely a link on the current landing page, and maybe it’s own tab. Something like that.
Anywho, I totally agree with your whole first paragraph! Whenever I ask for critiques from – well, ANYONE ELSE – I tend to hear alot of “that’s nice/neat/cool” or “wow” but nothing much negative and that is the stuff that makes you grow! It’s not easy to listen to… but it is necessary! =)
Thanks again!
~Squeek!
Zack Arias
November 17, 2009 at 11:31 pm
@Julia – Let not your heart be troubled. 60% or more of the attendees at my lighting workshops are women. I’ve had more workshops than I can count where they were ALL women! I taught 40 people in Australia this summer. Only one was a dude.
Cheers,
Zack